Ephraim and Joyce Tumusiime from Kampala, Uganda, debut on the podcast to share what they’ve learned throughout their respective leadership journeys and the wisdom that can come from interacting with other leaders. Together, they describe the consequences of not leading scripturally and how genuinely caring for those you serve trumps having all the answers.


Ephraim and Joyce Tumusiime serve on DOVE Africa’s Apostolic Council and lead the DOVE Uganda Apostolic team, which consists of over 80 churches. Ephraim is also the founder of Touch Africa Now, a non-profit organization based in Kampala, Uganda.


Quotable Quotes:

  • “You must live what you teach.”
  • “For everyone who falls, there’s a hundred that I know who love Jesus.”
  • “It’s fun serving the Lord.”



  • Being a kind leader garners respect and trust.
  • Correct people, but do it in love.
  • Being vulnerable allows others to do the same.
  • Do not misuse your power and take advantage of those around you.
  • We cannot put leaders on pedestals and not expect them to fall off.


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