Lisa Hosler returns to the podcast to talk about her book, The Unexhausted Leader, to help those growing weary in their ministries. In this episode, Lisa and Larry Kreider discuss the difference between brainstorming and spirit storming, the meaning of “productive pause,” and how to apply these principles in a secular work environment.

 3 Principles:

  1. Alignment
  2. Agreement
  3. Advancement


  • Isaiah 6:5
  • Take time to refresh your spirit.
  • It’s impossible to waste time on God.
  • Connect with God throughout the day.

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